Monday, July 29, 2019

Back from Finland

Well... I was back already on Friday morning. But that's when Language Jam started, so...

Anyway, I have been in Finland for almost two weeks, so there hasn't been much internet for me, nor much carrying books and other materials to and fro, but I have been using Duolingo and LingoDeer a lot.
It's the first time with Duolino on the phone for me, and I was gladly surprised to find that there are other languages there, and the nice little voice feature - in some languages you can test your pronunciation! Now, I have discovered that some sentences don't accept ANY pronunciation, and some accept ANY pronunciation :-D I tested it with Hinky Dinky Parlay Voo, and it said my pronunciation of "tu" is nice, but the rest wasn't good. :-D

I should be putting in time to get 1000 points...

I am studying 24 languages at the moment, and of them 3-4 are strong ones, ones that I can collect a lot of points quickly.
To collect 1000 points, I need to take 667 lessons. If I take one lesson in each language every day, that makes 360 points, and that leaves 640 points to be collected elsewhere... if I take one... circle... level? in all the languages, that's about 1800 points... hmm... 2 lessons in each language, a circle if that feels easy, that's 720+ points, and then 2 circles of each of the easy languages, that's about 150 points for each language, at least 300, and more if I feel like it. It shouldn't be too hard :-D
That would probably take some 16 hours every day :-D Sounds a bit... er... stupid?
Also, Duolingo has some... problems. I seriously wonder if I'm actually learning anything. :-D


 

Friday, July 26, 2019

Language Jam July 2019 - Indigenous languages

I am participating in the Indigenous Language Jam. I was given Cherokee or Tsalagi to learn. I am kind of sour to myself because I didn't choose out "foreign" letters... but - it's just to learn.

So... what should I learn...
the 65 first words and phrases to learn




Today, Friday, I am supposed to learn all the letters, the numbers and all the sentences on Omniglot.



Tomorrow I'll learn 1000 words. I'll name things around me. Hmm...
On Sunday I'll learn another 1000 words.

Wikipedia Cherokee

Cracking the code to speak Cherokee

Cherokee words

Cherokee Dictionary

Cherokee course

Cherokee language lessons on YouTube


 Cherokee

Cherokee language

Saturday 27th of July

I found a Cherokee language course on Mango Languages!

So... I didn't learn the alphabet, the numbers nor the sentences... *blush*
Well... I have excuses. A lot of excuses. But none of them is really interesting. I didn't need to go anywhere or do anything else, I just procrastinated and avoided studying.

Anyway, this is my first language jam, and I AM learning things :-)
I am learning things outside language, as well, and what I learn makes me so angry. :-( I feel powerless and angry and I hate certain people.

But, I am also falling in love with the people and the language and want to know more. I don't think this stops here.

Your grandmother's Cherokee

Cherokee syllabary 

Cherokee syllabary practice printout

Let's Talk Cherokee; YouTube playlist 1-3 Cherokee

Let's Talk Cherokee

 Cherokee Reader Book One

ᏑᎵ ᎠᏓ ᎠᎵ ᎩᏟ
suli ada ali gitli
buzzard - wood - sweat - dog

ᏑᏓᎵ ᎢᎾᏓ ᎠᏑᎶ ᎶᎶ
sudali inada asulo lolo
six - snake - pants - locust

ᏌᎶᎵ ᏌᏌ ᎠᎵ ᏌᎵ
saloli sasa ali sali
squirrel - goose - sweat - persimmon

cherokee foods; they ate a lot of corn, squash and beans, wild onions, eggs, fish, deer, turkey. And, of course, persimmons. When the Europeans introduced pigs, that became very popular very quickly. There's a lot of things baked of cornmeal. A lot of stews and such.

Sunday, 28/7

I got into an argument with someone and no language studies were made. Basically. I did in my 200 points of Duolingo, and I continued with my Cherokee letters or syllables, but that's it.

I am not happy with my language jam. :-(
But I am happy with Cherokee. Definitely continuing with my studies there.

Thursday, July 11, 2019

I am very pleased with myself :-D

I was sitting by the kitchen table, and my husband said "jag vill ha mamma-kaffe".
(It's a long story, but the short of it is that "mamma-kaffe" is the coffee mommy makes - basically he wanted me to make him a cup of coffee. No, I am not his mom, he's not my dad, but I'm the mom of the family and he's the dad. Anyway...)
Now, he is Danish but our home language is Swedish.
I have been studying Danish, with extra focus on pronunciation, so I started thinking how to say it in Danish.
It is written "Jeg vil have mamma-kaffe" but pronounced about the same. ABOUT the same...
So... I tried to pronounce it, and it went well until I got to "mamma". It came out Norwegian.
(Jeg vil ha mamma-kaffe)
So I started experimenting and trying to pronounce it in Danish, and finally I got it right :-D

Danish is spoken deep in the mouth and it uses the whole mouth. The other languages are quite light and airy and more sung... though Swedish sounds a bit pretentious and Norwegian a bit whiny ;-) No... Norwegian is very clearly articulated. You sound immediately more Norwegian if you articulate the consonants very carefully and clearly. And mind the vowels. Those are more important to getting the sound of the language right.

So - to get "mamma" to sound Danish, you have to use the Danish "a" and stød.
And I got it right :-D It sounded Danish and my husband approved :-)
YAY!

Then something different:

10 Most Accomplished Polyglots – They’re Truly Amazing!

10 Most Impressive Polyglots In World History 

I want to be amazing and impressive, too! 

Wednesday, July 10, 2019

13 books by Maltese Authors you have to read

https://lovinmalta.com/lifestyle/13-books-by-maltese-authors-you-have-to-read/

Yeah... except that you have to learn Maltese to read them... But sounds interesting. Especially Il-Ħajja Sigrieta tan-Nanna Ġenoveffa. (That one sounds so interesting it has been translated. Into English and... Norwegian?)

Tuesday, July 9, 2019

useful languages for studying the Byzantine Empire


"useful languages for studying the Byzantine Empire"
"As a baseline, you need to know Greek. But unfortunately, Greek from Attic to Modern is almost as wide a variance as from Latin to Standard Italian, especially since they roughly cover the same time frame.

Though you'd think that since you're studying the Byzantine era you'd want to learn Byzantine Greek, a lot of Byzantine documents are written with an eye on emulating either Attic or Koine Greek for prestige purposes. Procopius is a Byzantine historian writing in Attic that comes to mind. Also the resources for studying specifically Byzantine Greek are far less than for the other three. For that reason alone, I would recommend learning Koine Greek, as it's a bridge between Attic and Byzantine, and given that it's the language of the church, would be helpful in reading religious texts and their particular vocabulary.

After Koine Greek, I'd recommend learning French and German. This is in fact standard in the academic community, as most scholarship if it's not generated in English, will be in French or German, reflecting the three languages of the most prestigious and best funded universities in the world.

These three, Koine Greek, German, and French are the most essential for starting building blocks. The other languages are for depending upon which era you want to focus on.

If you're dealing with the Early Byzantine/Late Roman era (285-630), then Latin is also required, as there was still a lot of administration done in that language, and you'd have to have a solid command of it. Outside of Latin, maybe Coptic and Persian to deal with Byzantine Egypt and Sassanid Persia.

If you're dealing with the Middle Byzantine era (630 - 1025), then I'd recommend adding Arabic, as so much of that era is defined by Byzantine/Caliphate interactions. And for interactions with the west, you don't need to know Latin quite as much as you can deal with secondary sources written in English, German or French on those subjects, as by then the language of Byzantine administration is all in Greek, unlike in the early era. I'd also make a pitch for adding Russian to the mix, as the middle Byzantine era is when a lot of the Slavic polities really began to come into sharp focus in their conflict with Byzantium, however current Russian/Slavic research isn't "quite" as robust these days as English/German/French into this era.

Lastly for the late Byzantine era (1025 - 1453), Ottoman/Modern Turkish will be of a massive help to study the final fall of the empire. There's actually a lot of good research and archaeology being generated out of Turkey on the Byzantine Empire of all eras that simply isn't being read because of the inability for most non-specialist scholars to read turkish. If you truly want to stand out in Byzantine study, I'd recommend tackling this language."
 Well... yes, please, I don't mind if I do.

Monday, July 8, 2019

Romanian

I like this language. It sounds nice. :-)


eu sunt; sînt
tu eşti
el este; e
noi suntem
voi sunteţi
ei sunt; sînt

eu am
tu ai
el, ea are; a
noi avem; am
voi aveţi; aţi
ei au

eu citesc
tu citeşti
el, ea citeşte
noi citim
voi citiţi
ei citesc

eu mănânc
tu mănânci
el mănâncă
noi mâncăm
voi mâncaţi
ei mănâncă

eu beau
tu bei
el bea
noi bem
voi beţi
ei beau




Saturday, July 6, 2019

So... it's waning off again

I spent a couple of days creating myself an Autumn wardrobe. Apparently, it's not a capsule wardrobe, though... well. What ever. Nothing to do with languages.

I have been Duolingoing the whole time, though.

I really hate the Duolingo's... whatever it's called. You know, that thing that says what is right and what is wrong. It accepts a lot of wrong answers but then starts whining about petty details.
Like, in Danish, "a horse, the horse, horses, the horses" goes "en hest, hesten, heste, hestene", but it accepts "hästar" for horses, which is Swedish, so it's wrong for Danish. Duolingo is teaching me wrong. Which means that I can't use it to learn Danish. 

Well... it's not that bad, because it's a language and it's OK to learn it "wrong", because you WILL correct it as you go on. We all make these mistakes in our mother tongue all the time because we learned it "wrong" when we were young. You know, the "I always thought it was Dalmation!" things. 


I just recently noticed the "leagues". It is fascinating how competitive I am... just give me a challenge and I will do more. 
Unfortunately, it works only for a certain level.

Monday, July 1, 2019

language challenges

Also, a lot of language challenges started. I'm not going to participate in any of them. Most of them cost money which I don't have. I mean, I want to use it for other things. And there are quite enough resources for free. Especially considering that libraries exist and libraries have language courses.

So - the Add1 challenge might be interesting, but - I don't chat, and it costs, and it seems to be really complicated anyway, so - I'll probably hack it and do something of my own, with no sparring partners and so, so it's not the same thing at all. A lot of people use it and like it, so if you have the money, courage, and bother, go for it! It IS worth it.

LingQ's challenges...
So... OK, I get it, you need to live, too, and I have absolutely nothing against paying members getting benefits non-paying members don't get... but... as a non-paying member, I can create 20 lingqs.
That's it.
I can delete them and create 20 new ones, and that way learn 20 words at a time, so it's still a good program, and I recommend it for language learners. It really is very good. BUT - this means I, as a non-paying member, cannot participate in the challenges.
This makes me feel like a freeloader.
Instead of a poor cousin, I'm a moocher, a leech, a cadger, a beggar, a sponger - a parasite, taking something that doesn't belong to me. A do-nothing, good-for-nothing, ne'er-do-well. Someone hanging on hard-working, honest, good people's clothes, forcing them to work harder to support lazy bum me.
And that makes me angry.
I work as hard as anyone else for my languages. You can't steal languages. You don't benefit from other people's studies. Not one second of your study time benefits me in any way. I CAN'T mooch languages.

Now, I haven't done anything to create the material, and for that, I think the creators deserve all the praise and benefits that are reasonable.
On the other hand, as far as I know, everything I upload is for my personal benefit only, and it doesn't help me that I could read (read out loud) a lot of copyright-free material. I mean, everything Zacharias Topelius wrote is in the Public Domain. A lot of it has been translated. Minna Canth, Aleksis Kivi, Runeberg... Finland might not be a big country with a lot of literature, but there is some, and it would be wonderful for Finnish learners. I COULD help create content.
But... no. I'm poor, and I should feel bad because of that? Or, because 10 dollars a month isn't that much, and I do have that, but I choose to use it on other things - I should feel bad for that?
What do I get with that 10 dollars? Unlimited amount of lingqs and better statistics? Ability to import wordlists? Not worth it. I make my paper flashcards myself anyway.
The only reason I would pay is to be able to participate in challenges and to get my learner to grow. I kind of like that little thing. Neither of these is worth paying for to me.
So, the consequence is that I feel like a freeloader when I visit LingQ, and I don't like that, so I don't visit LingQ.

Then there's Yoyo Chinese July Study Streak. Yeah. Sounds good. I'll pass, thank you.

And so on, and so forth. Just google "language learning challenge", and you'll find plenty.

But most of them cost. And when you don't have the money, it doesn't matter how good a purpose the money goes to, or what you get with it. It's all "I'll pass, thank you".

*sigh*

You can join my "learn a language in 10 days" challenge.
For free.
Amazing benefits. You'll learn a language for free in 10 days and have a solid base on which to build by reading books and newspapers and magazines and whatever you like to read, and by listening to radio and music, and watching movies and television, or if you're really adventurous and brave (or social) you can learn more by talking to real people!

It will be a challenge, that I can promise you. It is 10 days of hard work. But - even if you fail, it has not been in vain. You will learn SOMETHING if you stick to it for 10 days. And, yes, it is just 10 days. (You could round it up to two weeks or down to one week if that fits your schedule better. Or spread it over a month, or 90 days, or whatever time period sounds good to you.)

Now, however you decide to do this, don't use more than a week to learn everything I put in on day 1.

One thing you should learn on day 1 is the alphabet.

Also, learn to say something useful the first day you study the language.
Be it the usual "Hi! My name is Ketutar. What is your name? I am a woman, I am 50 years old, I am Finnish."
Also, learn the "good morning, day, afternoon, evening, night" phrases, and use them.
Learn also the common courtesy words, thank you, you're welcome, please, excuse me, I'm sorry, pardon.
It doesn't take long, and you will be able to speak the language from day 1.

On day 2 learn the numbers and get comfortable using them. Learn to tell the time and date in your language, and learn the lingo of buying and paying for things. Keep counting everything in the language you are learning.

Learn the rest of the list of phrases on Omniglot on day 3.
Find other lists of phrases on the internet and learn them. There's something like "phrases in ---" on YouTube in a lot of languages. Repeat after the speaker and record yourself, until you can detect any difference.

On day 4 you'll hunt down a frequency list of the most common words in your target language, with 3000 words.
If you can't find one, find one in English and find the equivalent in your target language. At this point, it is quite OK to translate the list with Google Translate or something similar. You will learn the correct meaning and usage of these words later if you get something wrong. Don't worry.
Learn 1000 words a day. Yes, it is quite possible. It takes an hour to learn 100 words, so it takes 10 hours to learn 1000 words.

Handwrite flashcards for the words. Divide the pile in 100 words. Carry with you two piles, one you are learning, and one you will start learning when you have learned the first pile. If you need to be outside the home for several hours, take the whole pack with you.
Use any mnemonics that work to learn them.
Yes, it is cramming, it's not a good way of learning words, and you would probably forget everything, EXCEPT THAT YOU ARE USING THEM FROM NOW ON ALL THE TIME. There is no chance for you to forget them.

Also, it will take you FIVE MINUTES to go through your 1000 flashcards in the morning, after you have learned them, because it is just to read them through, and the average reading speed is 200-250 words a minute. You can do that while you take your morning leak.

Days 4-6 you will learn the 3000 most used words of the language. That is the size of the vocabulary Native speakers use every day.
Now, their active vocabulary is a lot bigger than that, it's about 15.000-25.000 words. But one can manage fine with just 3000 words.
These 3000 words will also give you enough understanding of the language that you can recognize if a word is a verb or adjective or something else, and guess the meaning, or be able to find it in a dictionary because you will be able to deduct what is the basic form of the word.

As you learn the words, you are to learn:
- definite and indefinite form, singular and plural, all case declension of nouns
- comparison forms of adjectives
- conjugation in all persons, present and past tense of verbs

So, you will learn:
"I, me, my, mine" instead of "I"
"un día, el día, días, los días" instead of "día"
Sein; Ich bin, du bist, er/es/sie ist, wir sind, ihr seid, Sie sind; ich war, du warst, er/sie/es war, wir waren, ihr wart, Sie waren" instead of "ist",
"gros, grosse, plus gros, le plus gros" instead of "gros".

The first day is the worst because you are not used to this, but as these are very regular, you will learn the rules very quickly, and do this by automatic.

Keep in mind that you might not be able to separate the bits of information AT THE MOMENT, but you will be able to do that in the future. It's like learning the multiplication table by heart. At first, you might need to go through the whole table, but the more you use it, the more automatic it becomes, until you just KNOW what 4 times 6 is. The same thing with languages. At first, you might need to go through the whole list to get to how to say "he is" in German, but the more you say it, the more automatic it becomes until one day you speak fluent German :-D

And to those people who say "Babies don't learn it that way!", I would like to say "Babies take several years before they start speaking. We have 10 days." (or whatever time frame you have :-D)

So, from day 7 and on, you will be using these words you just learned.
Try to read, write, listen, and speak the language every day. Just something, if it's just 10 sentences.

ideas:
reading: not just books, magazines, and newspapers; try Wikipedia articles, blogs, social media, comic books and cartoons, recipes
writing: journal, copy texts, write letters, write short stories, movie or book reviews, blog, social media updates, song lyrics, collect poems or quotes...
listening: music, radio, movies and TV shows, dictation, audiobooks, shadowing, mimicking, news, podcasts
speaking: shadowing and mimicking, here too, make videos of you speaking, read out loud, talk to yourself, repeat what you hear, narrate your life. learn poems or plays (or parts of them) by heart and recite them

Also, use all the different learning and thinking styles.

For example:
visual learning: make illustrated flashcards
verbal learning: copy texts
logical learning: etymology and grammar rules
auditory: read aloud, sing; put word lists into jingles, children's songs and carols
social: find people who speak the language in your neighborhood, video chatting
intrapersonal: write a diary, read your favorite books in the language
physical/tactile: take your flashcards for a walk with you; follow tutorials in the language, for example, cooking, try teaching the language to someone else, even if it just words or sentences
naturalistic: describe things in the new language, learn the names of animals and plants, and take the language out to nature with you

Busy day...

Yesterday was a busy day. Busy day with un-language related things, that is. So not that much language was studied. Some, though.

A couple of days ago I finally got to my mailbox and saw that they have released Arabic as Beta on Duolingo. Yay!
  I like it. I think they have got right the teaching letters. They might actually stick this time :-D

I was thinking about my "learn a language in 10 days" thingy, and thought of learning Vulcan. We have a summer party with SciFi theme and I plan going as a Vulcan and it would be cool to just speak Vulcan all the time :-D

Then I studied a bit of Hungarian. Duolingo isn't good for that. I need to find another way of learning Hungarian.


Then I took a couple of steps with Danish. I'm irritated by Duolingo accepting wrong spelling. I spell in Swedish. The Danish is not spelled Swedish. :-( Duolingo is teaching me wrong.

And then some Turkish. I like Turkish. It's interesting.